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* Gavin Sinclair (gsinclair / soyabean.com.au) wrote:
> Messages coming from Outlook is not the issue here.  It's PGP
> signatures, which are rendered in Outlook and Outlok Express (any
> others?) as either attachments, so you can't read the message directly
> - very annoying), or inline text signatures, which are unnecessary
> clutter.

In all honesty this is a problem with your mail reader. Hardly the
sender's fault. Being able to sign messages and prove you sent them is
pretty important, even on public mailing lists, and asking people not to
because your client is broken is unacceptable, in my opinion.

I suggest to send a bug report to your vendor. If OE knows to show
image/jpeg inline, then it should sure as hell know to show text/plain
inline too :)p

> The issue is independent of email clients used at either end, although some
> data would be handy.  Since Oct 1, the PGP signed messages come from:
> 
>  INLINE
>   KMail 1.4.3 (Michael Libby, Holden Glova)
>   Mozilla (Lyle Johnson, Count Zero, Ben Schumacher)
>   Sylpheed 0.8.5 (Martin Brown)
> 
>  ATTACHMENT
>   Mutt 1.4 (Paul Duncan, Eric Hodel, Philipp Meier)
> 
> It is interesting to see which email clients are producing the PGP
> signatures, since these clients are obviously adept at receiving them
> - without attachments or inline clutter.

PGP/MIME is the current standard method for signing messages, and has
been for years. The inline format you mention is in fact the old acsii
armour technique which is obsolete and has been for about 5 years :)

It's usually used by clients with hopeless MIME support, as seen above
;)

Anyway it is, of course, perfectly possible to use the old method with
mutt, as you can see from this method - it's just old obsolete and
broken and it means that people with good mail clients that do support
MIME properly get annoyed, because their custom actions for PGP/MIME
messages don't get fired by inlined messages.

Tom.
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