Thanks sir David for the note. Do you think it is (im)possible ever to be included in the future? I am asking since this is one of my favorites (My c++/clipper are full of these..). Guess I have to welcome myself fully to ruby's succ and iterators... Iterators are a lot of help though imho... > David of dblack / candle.superlink.net enlightens: > >If you search for ++ -- on http://www.ruby-talk.org, you'll see a lot >of past discussion about this, including explanations from Matz about >the unsuitability of these for Ruby. The short version is: no :-)