Oh, yes, yes, that was exactly what I meant when I reffered to putting the object/VALUE on the stack. (Beside, what good is to put the actual object on the stack? The gc just scans the stack for VALUE detection.) Bill ========================================================================= Paul Brannan <pbrannan / atdesk.com> wrote: > Don't put the object itself on the stack, put the VALUE that refers to > it on the stack. > Paul