Bill glows: >I would not hesitate to >say that Matz is much more genius than Larry! If we're voting, I'd second that :-) But all things evolve. I remember being *ecstatic* that Perl was around, and that I wouldn't have to suffer the problems inherent in porting shell scripts with awk, nawk, sed, cut, grep and the rest of the gang from one Unix box to another. Perl made all of that ugliness go away. But the world moves on. Ruby is far more appropriate for the current world, and will hopefully evolve more gracefully for tomorrow's world as well. I'll go back to being quiet now... /\ndy