On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Conrad Schneiker wrote: > Hi, > > I thought those of you working with random numbers, random number > generators, or random number generator evaluation functions might be > interested in the following URLs, which provide sources of real random > numbers (versus digitally generated pseudo-random numbers) that can be used > for random reality checking as it were. > > http://random.org/ -- Uses background radio static as source. > > http://www.fourmilab.ch/hotbits/ -- Uses radioactive decay of krypton-85 > as source. > > http://lavarand.sgi.com/ -- Uses scrambled digital snapshots of 6 lava > lamps as source. > > Reference: Science, Vol. 289, 7 July 2000, page 7. > Thanks a lot Conrad! We plan to include one Rng in the Random lib that will read nums from a site that delivers "true" random numbers so that you can do something similar to: rng = Rng.new("http://www.random.org") if you want really good rn's and can stand the potential time delay (I guess testing Rng's would be the main use ;-)). Status on the Random lib is that we got over 30 different Rng algorithms , marshaling, basic testing (including Maurer's universal test for randomness!) and non-uniform rng in there. However we will not release until we think the API is "right" => we should'nt need to update the API in coming versions. We also plan to have a crypto RNG in there before release. Finally we intend to supply the lib in two different forms: (1) as a minimal patch inserting a fast and good Rng alg into the ruby kernel, (2) as a lib that you load with require. > ======================== > > Here are some somewhat related quotes of interest turned up by > www.google.com. > > http://www.math.uoa.gr/~web/confer/statconference/abstrct/boland.htm > > "Anyone who considers arithmetical methods of producing random numbers is, > of course, in a state of sin." -- John von Neumann > > http://www.physics.miami.edu/~chris/quotes.html > > "The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to > chance." -- Unknown > > http://www.angelfire.com/ma/kilenm/2k04ppl.html > > "If people do not believe that mathematics is simple, it is only because > they do not realize how complicated life is." -- John von Neumann > :-) Thanks, Robert