Hi, For fun you could try Squeak: http://www.squeak.org/ For usefulness with Ruby, try C first and then C++ with QT: http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/index.html Regards, Jostein > To Andrew Hunt and David Thomas: > > I think in the book "The Pragmatic Programmer", one of the advices is > to learn a new language at least once a year. Probably for the year > 2001 it was Ruby. Now we are already in August 2002. Is there any > language candidate for this year? > > I am sorry, it is not my intention to have a discussion on defending > Ruby. The intention is to gather information on what other good new > languages out there are worthy to learn, after we know Ruby (hopefully > the language can be considered to be "better" than Ruby in some > specific areas, or just simply has totally different approach; > hopefully also we will not have to consider Lisp-like programming > languages). > > Regards, > > Bill