Larry Wall is redesigning regular expressions, in his latest "Apocalypse 5". http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2002/06/04/apo5.html Will Ruby be taking a similar change? I'm no expert at regexes, but if it can make then easier to read/write, sounds like a good idea. But is it worth breaking quite a bit of previously written code? Ruby may have a big advantage in that it's code base is quite a bit smaller. todd -- "This UI has been brought to you by the letters 'S' and 'K', and the runlevel 3." - Greg Andrews