i attached a photo of the message she sent me. She wanted the truth be told and with my apologies that's what i did. I'm sorry for turning the problem into a "challenge" i'm international not from this different culture so i don't know. Attachments: http://www.ruby-forum.com/attachment/6735/image.jpg http://www.ruby-forum.com/attachment/6736/image.jpg -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.