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On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:26:58AM +0900, Roger Braun wrote:
> 2011/4/28 Chad Perrin <code / apotheon.net>:
> >
> > For my purposes at least, it seems perfectly consistent that methods
> > should not be objects, in any case.  ¨Âåôèïäó áòåî§ô ªôèéîçóªôèåù§ò> > techniques *things* use to get stuff done.  ¨Âèåáò÷èáô ïâêåãô> > know, rather than being objects themselves.
> 
> I can not completely agree with that. One reason why methods should be
> objects is because it is great to treat them like this (as the
> quasi-method-object called "block" proves) and makes a lot of stuff
> easier.

Use callbacks for that.  They work great.


>
> Also, you can only bind objects to variables in Ruby, nothing else. So
> if I want to use a method in several places that don't know the method
> name beforehand, I have to wrap the method in a Proc object.

I don't see this as a huge limitation.


>
> BTW, having functions as objects is not really that unusual, see
> Javascript.

JavaScript differs from Ruby in at least two ways that bear on this:

1. It uses a different object system abstraction from Ruby's.  It is
Ruby's model for how objects work that informs my above-stated thoughts
on whether it is appropriate for methods to be objects themselves.

2. JavaScript depends on the ECMAScript standard, which is an obscene
mess.  I don't think it's the world's best example of how other languages
should do things (especially class-based OOP languages, given the
prototype-based model of JavaScript).  JavaScript could have been an
awesome language if not for the way the ECMA standards process ruined it.

-- 
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]

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