Hi, "Dave Thomas" wrote > "Conrad Schneiker" <schneiker / jump.net> writes: > > > But that doesn't preclude making the Ruby distribution maximally useful for > > both new users and the overall Ruby community now. It's not an either-or > > sort of thing. > > I've got an idea! (OK - it had to happen sooner or later). > > Why don't you (Conrad) _create_ a distribution that has all the > goodies you feel should be in there? I'm sure it would be linked from > ruby-lang and rubycentral. That way, Matz can continue with the more > minimal approach, and you can coordinate the richer functionality of a > full distribution. That would seem like the best of both worlds. Users > would have a choice. > > Hey - I'd probably use yours given a chance. Personally I've > downloaded a heap of stuff off RAA ;-) Well, there are two obvious problems with this: (1) we still wouldn't have a minimal distribution and (2) we would forsake a common reference distribution (which was one of the previously mentioned desirables). Recall that when we got off on this branch of the thread, the notion of a minimal approach involved omitting OS-dependent parts, and perhaps GUI-related stuff as well (modulo some ambiguity about "part of the language" and "part of the standard distribution"). Further recall that I was explaining why I thought these things should not only be retained but that suitable additions along the same lines should also be included, subject to conditions of sufficiently wide utility. Hey! I got an idea too. :-) Why don't you offer a minimalist distribution without the OS-dependent and GUI-dependent pieces, minus whatever else you regard as inessential. I'm sure it would be linked from ruby-lang and rubycentral. That way, Matz can continue with the less minimal approach, and you can coordinate the poorer functionality of a reduced distribution. That would seem like the best of both worlds. Users would have a choice. Conrad