--001636c5ab672a5800049b502712 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Ok. The question is why he liked it, if you'll pardon the pun. First of all, a disclaimer: I never met or talked to _why. So I can't really fully represent what his wishes were. That being said, you have to remember where Shoes came from: Hackety Hack. Hackety needs to have everything that it needs to function wrapped up inside of it: _why didn't want anyone to have to download anything else to get it working. > I don't mean to imply that the work involved would be trivial. I have absolutely no idea how much work it would be. Honestly, I can't think of anything in Shoes that would make it 100% necessary. But the effort to convert everything over would certainly be non-trivial. > I just don't see any major > blockers here -- I really don't see a good reason why Shoes should carry > its > own version of Ruby, when we have all sorts of other GUI toolkits, > application > frameworks, and DSLs distributed as plain old gems. > _why always referred to Shoes as an 'app toolkit.' He saw it as a different thing. And Hackety needs it to be that way. That said, we _are_ working on a pure Ruby Shoes, and it'll end up being the future of Shoes. That said, it's going to be a bit still, and we'll still have to work on getting the packaging system fully operational as well. All in good time. --001636c5ab672a5800049b502712--