I am really puzzled. I am a scientist and I have been using ruby for years. I like thinking and programming in ruby, but feel more and more uneasy. I'll try to express my feelings below (I am not a native English speaker). The ruby language and the ruby ecosystem (and the wonderful ruby community) fit perfectly with small applications, scripting, web frameworks, and so on. When you come to science, it is another story. Numerical computing, statistics, whatever, cannot be coded in pure ruby and you have to rely on specialized libraries. There are tentative gems (generally obsolete and not maintained) to connect ruby to these librairies. Take for instance 'linalg' for linear algebra. It is based on LAPACK. You need a Fortran to c converter, but f2c was deprecated, was replaced by g2c, and g2c is deprecated but not replaced, waiting for gfortran... Moreover, the compilation chain uses uncompatible versions of the c compiler (or even of ruby itself). Whether on Linux (Ubuntu Lucid) or on Windows, I had to give up. I understand the situation is not different on OSX. The situation is quite similar when you try to connect to the R language for statistics, or whatever similar. The web is full of old posts asking for help in similar situations with zero answer. Am I wrong ? Maybe I am too clumsy. But, after all, a programming environment is a tool to do your job and deliver. My job is to deliver science and I end spending my time compiling (I mean failing to compile) libraries. The advice I usually get is : shift to Python. A very sad perspective indeed. More generally, is there a future for ruby outside its present niches ? _md -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.