Adam Ms. wrote in post #963574: > Now I'd like to skip the framework and just do Ruby (think PHP > websites). Phusion Passenger is basically mod_rack. You can sit on top of it any Rack-compatible framework. I'd take a close look at Sinatra if you want something extremely lightweight. It may still be possible to get Apache to render erb pages directly, PHP-style, but I'd advise against it anyway. These days most people like to separate out their logic from their templates. Using Sinatra, you can start very close to PHP style, by mapping URLs to templates: get '/' do erb :index end get '/posts/:id' do @post = Post.find(id) erb :show_post end but it encourages you to move your 'action' logic into the application, where it is easier to test and refactor, rather than the templates. Furthermore, you can easily choose a different template format, such as HAML. > Is JRuby a higher-performance direction? I tried running Rails directly under JRuby once - it took about 600MB of VM for a simple app. But others have had more success, I believe. Regards, Brian. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.