On 16.10.2010 13:58, John Smith wrote: > no such method :\ What version of Ruby are you using? irb(main):001:0> RUBY_VERSION => "1.8.7" irb(main):002:0> "".method(:length).name => "length" irb(main):001:0> RUBY_VERSION => "1.9.1" irb(main):002:0> "".method(:length).name => :length Cheers robert -- remember.guy do |as, often| as.you_can - without end http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/