On Dec 15, 2005, at 15:17, Doug H wrote: > I'd recommend the exact opposite. If you ignore the libraries and GUI > toolkits, the book is virtually useless. Most people are using > ruby to > develop _applications_, not to learn programming for programming's > sake. I agree with the other poster about the expectations the title creates. I readed the book and was useful for me because i was learning, practical issues are addressed, and you are exposed to idiomatic Ruby. But I would expect it to evolve to explain "The Ruby Way" of programming, so my vote goes there. Explaining libraries and toolkits is certainly useful, but a topic for a different book in my opinion. -- fxn