2010/3/21 thunk <gmkoller / gmail.com>: > Whatever else this project is, I think it has to be a rather "extreme > design". Will you give me that? Since I still haven't grasped what your project is all about I can't make any such judgments. Maybe it's just me but I am starting to suspect that the lack of clear explanation that I am perceiving hint's at a lack of understanding on your part. Usually people who have a clear understanding of a matter can explain it in a way that others can pick up the concept. The fact that several people do not understand what all this is about might just show that we are thinking along totally different lines than you. Either way, since you are posting here I assume you want to enter a dialogue and get meaningful responses. It will help you to reach that end to provide an explanation that actually is understood by your peers. Cheers robert -- remember.guy do |as, often| as.you_can - without end http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/