On 2010-02-11, Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen / marnen.org> wrote: > Seebs wrote: >> On 2010-02-11, Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen / marnen.org> wrote: >>> "Shock tactics" was a poor choice of words on my part. I suppose I >>> should have said "putting things in a way that is less easy to ignore." >> It came across as more confrontational, but that is in practice easier >> to ignore than you might think. It's hard to not notice that there was >> a message, but it's easier to overlook the message. > OK, how would you have put it? That's a good question, and I don't remember enough of the initial context to give an answer. I would guess I'd probably start with asking for clarification as to whether the OP was working through an existing tutorial or trying to create a new tutorial. -s -- Copyright 2010, all wrongs reversed. Peter Seebach / usenet-nospam / seebs.net http://www.seebs.net/log/ <-- lawsuits, religion, and funny pictures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) <-- get educated!