On Nov 9, 9:44 ¨Βν¬ Τοξω ΑςγιεςΌτ®®®ΐνεδιοθ®γονχςοτεΊ > > I suppose the whole discussion is moot as Ruby will likely never see a ++ > operator. > > I was just trying to make clear the limitation wasn't a technical one, and > further show how a ++ operator could be "Ruby-like" while still retaining > C/C++/Java-like semantics. If implementing ++ requires changes to the parser, that seems like a pretty technical limitation to me! :) Matter of interpretation? BTW in all your posts on the topic, you don't seem to address pre- increment vs post-incrememt. (Forgive me if I'm wrong.) If Ruby implemented ++ and didn't address that, it wouldn't be C or C++ semantics at all. -- Gavin Sinclair