--0015174beb185e2978046d8bb5ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > With a system like Arch -- which I last experienced with Gentoo -- any > upgrade > could potentially break things, which means I have to deal with problems as > they arise, or I have to not update a lot -- which means more security > problems. With a system like Arch -- which is much unlike Gentoo, I've tried that before I went to ArchLinux --, I can at any time revert by just using the cached old package and running pacman -U /path/to/package And believe me, I have enough friends running Ubuntu, Kubuntu and what not and all of them are afraid to upgrade each time a new big version is released... I run my updates almost daily and the last package to break something was... I don't even remember when that was. Quite a while ago. 1.8.7 is actually not a great release. It breaks things that worked in > 1.8.6, > and most people either stay on 1.8.6 or upgrade straight to 1.9.1. > I like 1.8.7, tons of new nice features I wouldn't wanna miss for the world ;-) Coding for 1.8.6 always makes me feel like I got forced to write C again... And it's way better than 1.8.5 which Michael is now forced to use. Also, Ruby 1.9.0 is available as a package, but that one needs to be compiled. Although the supplied packagebuilds almost always work and are fully automated. And there's Ruby 1.9.1 in the testing repository as a packagebuild as well. AFAIK it is still in testing as it breaks something in gvim or something like that. They want to fix that bug I guess before they put it out there. > > And Ruby itself as well als RubyGems come as binary packages, meaning you > > don't have > > to compile them at all. > > Rubygems compiles any C extensions on install. Or are you saying Arch > packages > ALL rubygems? > > No, of course not. RubyGems, the _gem install system_, of course. I install my gems like any normal Rubyist via gem install whatever. But it has some special gems as packages, e.g. Rake (mainly those needed for build processes) Greetz, k --0015174beb185e2978046d8bb5ec--