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> On Jun 24, 2009, at 02:06 , Trans wrote:
>
> > We are seeing a lot or release announcements among the regular posts
> > these days, taking up a larger and larger percentage of total posts.
> > Perhaps if we have a separate list for them then:
>
> Not counting my latest flood of releases, there are 40 announcements > out of 480 email over the last week or roughly 8.33%. If you do count > my flood, then it is 72 out of 529 or roughly 13.6%. Either way I > hardly think that constitutes the need for another list. seattle.rb, > ruby-core, ruby-talk, rubygems-developers, and UW-ruby...

First, I think 8%-13% is a good bit. But more to the point, it could
be much worse. Consider how it would be if everyone announced as
regularly as you do.

Personally, I wish they did. I often learn of new projects just by
chance --usually a mention on some blog. I would like to encourage
more people to make announcements --even those little 0.0.1 bumps. I
like to see it become a very regular habit of all ruby developers. But
if that happened then we can expect that percentage to shoot way way
up.

I also suspect that many people do not announce b/c they don't want to
add too much "noise" to the list or they don't want to announce their
wares for "all to see" if they don't feel is quite up to snuff yet. If
there was a separate list they could feel more at ease about these
considerations, and as a result the whole community could benefit.

> I don't need > any more ruby based mailing lists. Really, and this is coming from the > person who beat you to the punch by SEVEN years [1].
>
> > 1) ruby-talk itself would improve
>
> it would?

You used to think so too. Do you think now that the lack of
announcements would make ruby-talk worse?

> > 2) we'd all know were to look to see what's new without having to
> > sift
>
> see that "@gmail.com" part of your email address? I hear they're > pretty good at this sort of thing. Even my lowly mac mail app seems to > do a damn good job of it.

Many people access the list via other means. I use Google Groups.
There is also Usenet and Ruby Forum, among others.  Filtering is not
always so straight-forward.

> > 3) other people besides Ryan Davis would announce their projects ;-)
>
> they would?

Yes, I think they would. See above.

> speculate much?

There's a fine line between calculation and speculation --I think they
call it evaluation.

> 1)http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/51569> andhttp://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/51818

I think you make very good points. But something like this cannot work
without being official ruby-lang.org list.

T.