Steven Arnold wrote: > Then we agree on the main point. The nub of opposition is not > technical, but aesthetic dislike of indent-aware syntax, which causes a > fear of having to maintain such code in the future. > And vice-versa, the current angst in people having to maintain code with 'end', and their fear that they will have to continue doing so in the future if they cannot get 'end' dropped. Who knew that programming was so scary? More significant is that there are some people who may find endless Ruby more aesthetic, yet still harder to actually work with, and so prefer to have the extra token. That is, it is not merely (or even) aesthetics , but, at least for some people, an empirical problem in easily processing significant indentation. Plus there are concerns with editor support (code folding, start/end block navigation, auto-formatting, ease of cut-n-paste, etc.). The nubs are many. -- James Britt www.jamesbritt.com - Playing with Better Toys www.ruby-doc.org - Ruby Help & Documentation www.rubystuff.com - The Ruby Store for Ruby Stuff www.neurogami.com - Smart application development