> Third, there is no doubt about the objective fact that Ruby code that
> removes optional "end" keywords will be shorter, and I think practically
> everyone agrees in principle with the idea that terseness is a virtue unless
> there is some specific reason for being redundant.

No, I don't agree.

> Fourth, I thought the point was quite persuasive that Ruby also allows
> semicolons to be entirely optional except in those specific cases on the
> same line where they are needed. This behavior and philosophy is exactly
> analogous to the current proposal. You could put a semicolon at thend of
> every line in Ruby right now, but no one does. Why not? Because they are
> redundant, because they are visual noise.

Tracking newlines is easy, tracking indentation is not.

> Having said that, I think the main problem boils down to aesthetics.

No. It boils down to the mess this introduces.
There is Python for those who want Python.

> However, I think from the viewpoint of people who do
> not like significant whitespace, the problem is that they know that if the
> proposal were adopted, sooner or later they will encounter code that is
> formatted in this way, and they will then be "forced" to deal with code they
> find unpleasant. In other words, someone will be forced to deal with code
> they find difficult to work with, and those who prefer "end," quite
> naturally, do not want to have to be the ones to deal with this.

That's correct.

> I think in reality, the imposition on those who prefer "end" will be minor.

I think otherwise.

> I don't have an answer to this aesthetic problem, and I don't think one is
> possible, since taste is taste and one cannot be argued out of their
> preferences. However, i would say that allowing people to do thingsn
> different ways is part of the spirit and philosophy of Ruby.

Yes, please. there are whole languages for that.

> It's hard to understand why Ruby would allow semicolons to be optional but
> not "end" keywords.

It is very easy to understand.

Regards,
Rimantas
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