Thanks to both of you - a lot! Well, one nice thing is the fact that I can have multiple instances of Ruby on my machine (which is very helpful). Not many people can say with any other language that you just rename 2 folders and everything is back to working condition, hehe - with ruby you can! So, I might try doing a few of the suggestions tomorrow (when my brain unmushes) on the 1.9.1 install folder. I kept it intact and it has most of the correct gem updates. I really want to try and get the mysql running and if it works on 1.9.1 with what I use then all the better. Tomorrow is another day - I'll try again. I finally got down to working with winapi in Ruby today when I was finishing up my other book. It was fun to learn some of that stuff with Ruby. I still love Ruby and it's ease of use. Programming is easier than installing! Go figure. :) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.