> The model itself is idealized to maximize extinction rates. I agree. > Got an agenda? Welcome to the state of eco-science. It depends. Aside from this media brain-washed attitude, the whole field of ecology does list problems without inflated models. Think about glaciers for example. It may not be a big problem that they are shrinking, however the fact THAT there is a change should be noted down accurately by scientific research. I was never a fan of science which tries to shock or otherwise scare people as part of a strategy, but changes in environment can often lead to unexpected problems cropping up. One that comes to my mind are new animals which are brought to an endemic population (i.e. cats on an island, eating eggs of turtles). Another problem is the huge amount of fishing in oceans in general, which changes the whole ecosystem drastically. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.