hi guys, sorry this is actually a railess app. Just ruby and the console. Ive found a few links though that show how to use active record without rails though here including setting up migrations and fixutres. http://rails.aizatto.com/category/activerecord/activerecord-without-rails/ and there is also this piece here http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/HowToUseActiveRecordOutsideRails does anyone know of anyother links? From what i can tell those links dont discuss how to implement the automatic generation of a test version of a development db that rails does everytime you run a test. If anyone has a link etc id really appreciate it!. Thanks for the input so far -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.