> This is just personal opinion but I'd hate to see the Ruby GUI API > standardize on anything C++ based. I've used a few C++ UI toolkits and, > while they all worked, they were just so un-Ruby. Part of the joy > of Ruby is > that you don't have to start subclassing to get anything done. > > I'm very much a newbie here but the idea that you would use something as > dynamic as Ruby for the model and something as static as C++ for the UI is > just backwards. You can live with a static, strongly typed language in the > model: some would argue that it's an advantage there. Views really benefit > from dynamism and weak typing. hi i don't know if i understand correctly, but libraries like FOX and Tk were all written in a language other than ruby, but their ruby wrappers are well written in the dynamic ruby style. sort of. mostly. i hope. the issue remains: windows users, in general, simply cannot take anything other than native components seriously. and i'm certain that mac and some other OS people will feel the same way. perhaps one can provide a standard layer, formally part of the language (designed properly) that supports native plugins. i think that the setting of a gui standard now is very important for the language. else we get the current mess of strangely written half-working disconnected libs. regards --Pieter