Clinton D. Judy wrote: > So I'm just finishing my first year at a real job, and thinking about > asking to go to RubyConf. I really don't have the money to pay for this > out of pocket. I also know that this company sends TONS of people to > heavy construction conferences every year (it's our business), so I'm > sure that if I asked right, they would do it for me. > > But I've never asked for that before. I don't think I want to do it > casually; to easy for them to say 'no', even when this would be really > beneficial. See, that's another problem, I'm going to this conference > 90% to learn Ruby and keep up with the Ruby world, and 10% or so to meet > and hang out with other Rubyists. No offense to the other attendees; if > this conference were in Minnesota in the dead of winter, the office > would know for CERTAIN that there were no other reason for me wanting to > go there. November in Florida? Boss may want to go instead (not a Ruby > user). This is a business question pure-and-simple. You're asking your company to make an investment in you by spending money to send you to the conference. You have to justify it by showing how your company will make a profit on their investment. So consider, what's the benefit to your company? I assume that part of your job is to write Ruby code. (If not, it's going to be very hard to explain how going to a Ruby conference will make you a more valuable employee.) As you said, some of the benefit will be education: You'll be attending presentations where you'll learn about how to use Ruby more effectively to do whatever it is you do at your company. You'll learn about ways to use Ruby in your job that will lower costs or increase profits. (Lowering costs is good, increasing profits is better, but since your company is in heavy construction and not software it's more likely you're using Ruby to lower their IT costs.) It would be nice if you could point to a specific Ruby project that you're working on right now, or will be working on very soon, and say "Boss, with what I learn we'll be able to complete this project sooner/make it more robust/do more than we thought we could." (And implicitly, "Boss, this will make you look good to your boss.") So a large benefit from going to RubyConf is education. There's another benefit from RubyConf, and conferences in general, and that's the intellectual stimulation you get from just being around like-minded professionals and hearing about their work, ideas, problems, and solutions. I almost always come back from a conference full of energy and ideas about ways to do my job better. Another huge benefit is the opportunity to make connections. Ruby is open source and an important benefit of open source is the community. You'll be able to meet other Rubyists face-to-face, share a glass, get to know each other. The community is a great resource for solving problems and sharing code and ideas. So, from RubyConf you get education, intellectual stimulation, and connections. It's up to you to show your boss that you'll come back a more valuable employee, sufficiently more valuable that their investment in you will be repaid. Good luck! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.