> In Ruby, however, divmod returns the quotient and modulo: > for x in [13, -13] > for y in [4, -4] > q, r = x.divmod(y) > puts q*y + r > end > end > => 13, 9, -9, -13 > This strikes me as dangerous, as I suspect most people would expect > divmod to return a remainder, not a modulus. > Anyone have any opinions? the name "divmod" says it all: the second return value is a modulo. I also agree that q*y+r should equal x. The way it should be done is to fudge the quotient instead. I'll tell you why. The most useful combination of division and remainder/modulo is in encoding two integers, an outer and an inner, as only one integer. The inner normally is nonnegative. Such partitioning of integers is useful for: mapping multidimensional array indices unto unidimensional ones; finding a weekday and a week number from a day number; handling bit fields; sine table lookup and similar; finding a character cell position from a pixel position; ... Generally a first characteristic of such systems is that the behaviour around 0 has to be uniform: all the partitions must be of equal sizes. A second characteristic is that it should be invertible by the a*b+c rule (most of the uses I listed above have useful inverses) That's why -1 divmod 5 must return -1, 4, and not 0, -1. I would actually favour a change so that in a/b the result be rounded toward the lowest, not the smallest (smallest being lowest absolute value), but since it might be breaking existing programs, adding a method "div" would be appropriate, and we would get the bonus that the name "div" is the other half in "divmod". but then we have the problem that "mod" is called % but not "mod", while the % of most popular languages is called "remainder" (in full length) here. oh well... btw, anyone can provide a good list of uses for the "/" "remainder" duo, just in case...? Mathieu Bouchard