On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Victor Reyes <victor.reyes / gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I normally don't get involve on this type of "theological" discussions,
> specially since I am no more than a mere and simple beginner, and I feel
> that I can't add anything to the big brainier discussion. That been said, I
> have a problem with a beginner list:
>
>
>   1. Would a beginner question receives a beginner's answer?

Historically, beginner questions have received a fair mix of beginner
and playfully advanced answers.

>   2. How are we going to understand/learn new techniques and creativity
>   which only the non-beginner posses? Please don't be arrogant and tell me to
>   learn it like you did! Although I know that this not your problem, some
>   people, like I, at times needs to see examples.

See 1 - people have never shied away from providing 'advanced' and
creative answers to beginner questions

>   3. When would a beginner like I be permitted into the big boys
>   (non-beginner) club?

Whenever you like. I actually imagine people joining both lists. It's
just nice to have a list where the beginner questions are the signal
and not lost in the general chatter.

>   4. What's wrong with being a beginner?

You killed our fathers. Prepare to die.

> In the past I have learn interesting techniques from you, big boys,
> non-beginners and I wish I could continue to count on that. I have received
> answers from some of the Ruby book authors and from some of the Ruby
> packages developers, also from just fun loving Ruby hackers, and YES from
> beginners to.
>
> If a person considers that a question is too simple and s(he) does not wants
> to waste time on it, skip it. If your arrogance does not let you see your
> feet, well good for you.
> But please let us beginners feel comfortable and let Ruby grow with our
> stupid questions!

I think you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick - the point of a
beginner's list is to provide a place where beginner's questions are
guaranteed not to get overlooked in the general chatter. There are
times when I'm busy and just mark-all-read on ruby-talk, but if I saw
a post in the beginner's list that had received no replies, I might
take the moment or two to see if I could answer that at least.

martin