On Aug 8, 10:27 ¨Βν¬ Ωυλιθιςο ΝατσυνοτΌν®®®ΐςυβωμαξη®οςηΎ χςοτεΊ > Hi, > > In message "Re: An introduction, in about 50 lines of Ruby." > on Fri, 8 Aug 2008 23:14:01 +0900, Alexei Broner <lah... / gmail.com> writes: > > |You guys are no fun. I didn't even get "that's not really recursive, > |it's building an external variable.", much less a "Hello, welcome to the > |group." > > "Hello, welcome to the group." ;-) > > |Maybe I should go learn Python... > > Maybe you should. ¨Βθεωογαγθοοσε μαξηυαηε ωοπςεζες> > matz. Maybe it's time for a list split? I have noticed that there has been a fairly sharp decline in list participation over the last couple of years. In August of 2006 there were over 6500 posts, since then we have seen a steady decline to the low 3000s. From what I can tell, the main issue is that Ruby experts tire of the quantity of nuby posts that they have to weed through. I know there is the fear that having two lists of "beginner" vs. "expert" creates the fear that experts won't help out beginner, but that it already the case --as demonstrated by this post. There are the nice guys like David Black who take the time to answer new user's posts often, but he will do this if there are one or two lists ;) In fact, I think it would be easier for experts to help new users if they could more readily segregate the post types. So I'll go out on a limb here, I respectfully request that an official "ruby-pro" (or some such name) be created. T.