With a fresh install of Rubygems, when I issue a "gem -h" command, the result is: /usr/bin/gem:23: uninitialized constant Gem::GemRunner (NameError) Background: With a fresh installation of Kubuntu 8.04.1 Linux, I installed ruby 1.8 with "apt-get...", and then installed rubygems 1.8 from the tar file at rubyforge. There were problems, so I figured the rubygems install done that way was a bad idea. Basically, I was getting an odd message when trying to install the webby gem. Three other gems did install without error, including sequel. So, I reinstalled ruby 1.8, and rubygems from the Adept package manager, at which point I got the unexpected problem above. I don't know what's wrong or how to get a good install of rubygems, at this point. All suggests greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Cloyd Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A: (360) 920-1226 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~