Does Star Cross reply? Seems a bit lost in all this. A heavy perl user that praises perl including it's disadvantages... perl is readable? Yeah. For C fossil coders maybe. 8) Let's challenge the perl folks. They claim that perl is more readable than ruby? Let's make a rubyquiz-perlquiz challenge. We need to solve something, the perl guys do it. Then we compare our solutions. (Only "in-built" stuff is allowed, i.e. no cpan modules rubygems etc... things would have to be used from scratch, so that no language gains an inherent advantage over the other) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.