Eivind Eklund wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Lyle Johnson <lyle / lylejohnson.name> wrote:
>   
>> On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Ron Fox wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Stealing from  yourself is not plagiarism.
>>>       
>> No, but stealing from other authors' work is. So unless the authors of
>> "Progamming Ruby" and "Ruby in a Nutshell" have approved this "reuse" of
>> their work, there's a problem.
>>     
>
> Yes, there's a problem - however, assuming this is actually edited
> into a new coherent whole (I didn't see if there were new bits, it
> looked familiar from many years back) there's also some amount of work
> done.  Assuming the author is misguided rather than malicious, we
> should applaud him for that work, even if he's using sources wrongly,
> and then try to help him do things in a way that's more generally
> accepted in a copyright-focused world.
>
> Eivind.
>
>
>   
I want to concur. Please remember that most people are NOT malicicious, 
and that re-use is a major factor in all the arts and sciences. Finally, 
in the course of our general intellectual development, it acquired a 
formal name: refactoring. I consider it one of the most important things 
we do in cultural evolution. I love the notion of refactoring.

Every day needs its own version of the truth, for it's a new day.

And yes, giving credit matters. But not as much as being useful. 
And...at some point, we all lose contact with our sources. How much can 
you carry on YOUR back?

That said...get those sources in order, and make appropriate 
attributions. It's about being respectful, of both sources and readers.

I, too, am writing a Ruby book - but it's just for me. Some of us just 
can't hold ourselves back.

t.

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