> I'd prefer to see Ruby on par with the likes of Perl or Python. I'd > prefer to see ruby used to write installation scripts, manage system > processes, and build maps in games like Civ 4 (Python). Not just "that > rails language". Why do you think Ruby is not on par with perl? In my opinion perl is constantly losing people, especially new ones, younger ones, are much more likely to use php ruby or python. "build maps in games like Civ 4 (Python)" That is fine, you notice you used Python, not perl as example? ;-) > Not just "that rails language" You think that people only use ruby because of rails? I assure you that there are many people that use ruby heavily but have hardly any use for rails. I am sure the scenario is different for many rails-user, but what I dont like is your world view here -> "just a rails language" There is no homogeneous mass. Btw I think there are much more games that use python rather than perl. And I think ruby is more prevalent in game projects than perl, but we should rather make a list and compare that (and differ betwen games written completely in that language, and games that use a faster language and tie this with a scripting language, i think even lua might be ahead of python here) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.