Actually, I was not aware of a Watir user group, but I will definately check that out. I am also not sure that Watir is what I need. We have been tasked with finding Ruby testers, and so far all I have found concerning Ruby testing has been Watir. Obviously, there is a lot I have to learn about this, which is the reason for all of my questions. Again, I am appriciative of your expert knowledge. Hopefully I can determine the client needs, and find the right person. Thank you