On Apr 17, 8:37 ¨Βν¬ Μυισ Μαφεξα Όμυισμαφ®®®ΐηναιμ®γονΎ χςοτεΊ > Bruce Williams :http://codefluency.com/ > Rails fame, Validatable all fame, father of the validations in > projects like DataMapper and Sequel (but not the implementer) -- > anyway, they split from the path long ago. > > HTH, > -- > Luis Lavena I could be wrong, the project might have changed hands for all I know, but I think you're thinking of Jay Fields: http://blog.jayfields.com/ ...and just to set the record straight, DM's validations started out custom, implementing Martin Fowler's idea of Contextual Validations, though to be fair, 90%+ of the syntax was borrowed from Rails. Then we switched to Validatable, which seemed like a good idea at the time, but required overwriting a good bit of the Validatable code. Now we've gone back to the original DM validations and just filled in the areas we didn't cover so well before. Now I've got a little transcoding to do, and then it's all DM, all day hopefully. ;-) Oh yeah, Adam Keys is a great guy. Organizes a lot of Ruby related events around Dallas. Spreads the knowledge. Brilliantly smart. OTOH his love of Rails frustrates me to no end. :-D