On Dec 8, 2007 2:05 PM, Grabber <grabber / gmail.com> wrote: > First i'm new to ruby! > > I see the open source projects from any developer as the better way to see > what one developer can do! When we talk about certifications, we can't know > if the developer really KNOW, or just KNOW ACTUALLY TESTS. We need > developers to solve and create new problems and not to copy/paste/decorate! > > My suggestion is: > > I new concept of certifications, without tests! To get the ruby > certification the developer sign-in in a web site, and submit a project. > This project will be mentored by other(s) developer(s) and he will say: "he > is a good developer, now he is a ruby certified" or "he is NOT a good > developer...". > > I never see this concept of certification, but it sounds nice for me! > > (sorry for my poor english, i'm learning!) > > Regards, > Luiz Vitor Martinez Cardoso aka Grabber > engineer student at maua.br > Brazil - SåÐ Paulo > I'm kind of with Austin here. Mostly because I've seen the IT world dive right into certs that prove no capability whatsoever. My favorite story involves a guy who spent a reasonable sum of money to get Cisco certified only to become mortified later that his credibility was a far more important currency. Certs don't really make for a good litmus test. I'm not a manager or employer, but I can tell you who I would hire just from reading this email list; and no, it has nothing to do with being white or having an Ivy League education. My 2c. Todd