The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.lang.ruby as well. "Conrad Schneiker" <schneiker / jump.net> writes: > While many ISPs (semi-)automatically add newsgroups upon receiving the > newsgroups.announce notification, in many cases people will have to ask > their less proactive ISPs to add groups that were created since the ISP was > set up. From what I've seen, people who had to wait for more than a day or > so for their ISPs to carry comp.lang.ruby are still ... waiting. So don't > wait--investigate!--i.e. call them, send them e-mail, or whatever. Just to reinforce this message: I sent my ISP three messages over the last week asking for c.l.r, and got nothing back. So I did a little digging and discovered who they got their news from, sent those guys an e-mail, and c.l.r appeared within an hour. Dave