hi all- i haven't personally seen all this thread http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-talk-google/browse_frm/thread/ 3de853a80e312fff land in my inbox. ml issues or personal problem? thanks a @ http://codeforpeople.com/ -- we can deny everything, except that we have the possibility of being better. simply reflect on that. h.h. the 14th dalai lama