> ...PHP at the same time however, is a horrible
> language compared to ruby...PHP basically just cares
> about getting the c**p outta *SQL and the "thing done", as ugly
> as it may be...

The Ruby community really needs to calm down about this language  
superiority thing. I'm new to Ruby, and I've been hanging out on this  
list for the past month or two. I'm not sure if you guys realize how  
many of your emails are anti-some-language or comparing Ruby's  
popularity to the others. It's really a turn-off. It's like an  
insecure woman looking in the mirror asking you if she looks OK. "Of  
course!," you say. "You're beautiful!" And then she asks you again  
and again...

> I see .php pages all the time. (Almost) all the webshops use
> them (yuck). Loads of blogs use php...Back to www.langpop.com for  
> querying top 3 "jobs wanted"
> notes, PHP and SQL is among them (rank 3 / rank 1).
> Yuck yuck yuck...PHP also wins on del.icio.us and in fact is only  
> beaten
> by _JAVASCRIPT_  !

PHP code can also be beautiful if written correctly. Given the  
present circumstances, it sounds to me like you'd better go learn  
PHP.  ; )

Michael