John Joyce wrote: > It's actually quite amusing to read programmers' quibbling over graphic > design... > it's about like mom's arguing the merits of an operating system... There's a saying in my country: you don't have to be a shoemaker in order to know how your shoes hurt your leg. This is not to say that I agree or disagree with anything posted in this thread, just that even programmers may have valid points related to graphic design or anything else. mortee