On Oct 26, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Tim Pease wrote: > On 10/26/07, Giles Bowkett <gilesb / gmail.com> wrote: >>> a system that leverages open source >>> *without* the ability to follow the rapidly moving pace of the >>> packages' development has complete missed one of the main >>> features of >>> open source and is, for me and my clients, utterly useless - >>> inability to keep up with head or, at least, do that via a package >>> manager renders *open* source to be effectively *closed* >> >> we're going to have to manually update our Ruby installs just like we >> had to last time **anyway**, because Ruby will probably change again >> before OS X does. the "gem server" (not gem_server any more) example >> illustrates exactly that problem, because it's already happened - the >> new gems is in pre-release already. >> > > Hmmm, why not provide the XCode project files so that we can create > our own Ruby framework. I assume the framework in a user's Library > folder would supersede the System folder. Just a thought. > > TwP > Arguably it should all be part of software management system. Though MacPorts should not be the only option. It is a bit short sighted in some regards, but we do have to acknowledge that as an operating system/platform it needs to have a stable & reliable official release to develop around, as well. There are indeed both the bleeding edge people and the stable/ reliable/predictable people. Both camps have valid merits. Personally, I was (unrealisticallly) hoping for Ruby 2.0 & Rails 2.0 all rolled up together in the new OS X...