Since we're all throwing book titles around, you might be interested in _my_ book that just entered MEAP. :) It's basically what you describe. Ruby in Practice http://www.manning.com/mcanally --Jeremy On 10/7/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb / cesmail.net> wrote: > Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 08:31:54AM +0900, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > >> John Joyce wrote: > >>> Far better suggestion is what topics to write books and chapters about! > >>> > >>> I suggest a GUI focused Ruby book that covers Qt, Tk, Wx, etc... > >>> A game / graphics focused Ruby book... (could easily be integrated or > >>> connected with the GUI book) > >>> A whole host of Ruby topics could be entire books based on one or two > >>> classes or modules or gems. > >>> What we have enough of are books that are broad but not deep. > >>> As an example: Pro ActiveRecord is a nice one, but an Expert > >>> ActiveRecord would be better... > >>> > >>> Lots of topics to suggest. > >> Agreed ... then again, there are some other good books that don't even > >> exist: > >> > >> "Up and Running with Nitro and Og" > >> "Up and Running with Iowa" > >> "Pragmatic RSpec" (although I hear that's due in beta by the end of the > >> year) > >> "ZenTest and Heckle Primer" > >> "Selenium ..." > >> "Watir ..." > >> "Cerberus ..." > >> > >> There are some things Ruby has -- like Rails, Nitro, Iowa, RSpec, > >> ZenTest, Heckle and many others -- that don't exist in the Perl world. > >> So you can't say, as you can with Ruby/Tk, "Go learn from the O'Reilly > >> Perl/Tk book and just translate the syntax from Perl to Ruby and you'll > >> be on the air". > >> > >> I think the real problem is not that every book on Ruby tells you how to > >> install it. The real problem is that there doesn't seem to be an actual > >> paid market for much beyond books about Rails and core Ruby. The other > >> good stuff, like the things I've listed above, just isn't getting seen. > >> > >> Then again, as a potential author, I'm not going to spend any time > >> writing about things I don't use. So don't look to me for a Nitro or > >> Iowa book, or a book about everything you wanted to know about Ruby on > >> Windows systems. :) > > > > Actually, as a first step in that direction a "common useful libraries" > > book -- perhaps called "prospecting for gems", or something cleverer -- > > would be excellent. I don't mean a listing: I mean an honest-to-goodness > > tutorial/primer on a bunch of great libraries/modules for common tasks. > > > I can do "gem list --remote" and get a listing of the gems and brief > descriptions -- good enough to tell me whether I want to learn about > them or not. And as far as "common tasks" are concerned, I think that's > covered adequately by "The Ruby Way" and "Ruby Cookbook". > > What *I* want is a book on Cerberus, a book on RSpec, a book on > Selenium, Watir/Firewatir, etc. I know *what* these things can do, and I > want to know how to get started doing them without having to decode RDoc > and ri files! > > -- http://www.jeremymcanally.com/ My books: Ruby in Practice http://www.manning.com/mcanally/ My free Ruby e-book http://www.humblelittlerubybook.com/ My blogs: http://www.mrneighborly.com/ http://www.rubyinpractice.com/