M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: -snip- > The raw numbers that went into this are from the Alioth shootout > page, and what I *haven't* done is checked out which versions of > Perl, Python, YARV, Ruby, jRuby and PHP these tests used. They > could be years old or they could have been run yesterday morning. :) > I discarded all the tests for which there were any missing values. Perl v5.8.8 Python 2.5.1 Ruby 1.9.0 (2007-08-14 patchlevel 0) [i686-linux] Ruby 1.8.6 (2007-03-13 patchlevel 0) [i686-linux] Ruby 1.8.5 (2007-06-07 rev 3841) [i386-jruby1.0] PHP 5.2.2-pl1-gentoo (cli) You haven't mentioned how many remained after you discarded those with missing values: at least 7 discards - Ruby 1.9.0 has 5, PHP another one, JRuby another one. Did you actually include "hello world"? -snip- > Now suppose your boss comes to you, as bosses do, and says, > "well, all them high-falutin' box plots are dandy, but the board > of directors wants one number for each language!" It turns out > (and I'll let Google and Wikipedia fill in the blanks for you) > that the one number you want to give your boss, aside from your > cell phone number, is the *geometric mean* of all the benchmark > ratios. Again, smaller is better. geometric mean (of ratios to most performant program): http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4sandbox/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all -snip- > It's pretty clear to me from these numbers is that the only > reason that deploying web applications on the LAMP stack and its > cousins using PostgreSQL, Perl, Python and Ruby is economically > viable is that they spend most of their time either in the database > or on the network. As in - "we have found that the CPU time is rarely the limiting factor; the expressibility of the language means that most programs are small and spend most of their time in I/O and native run-time code." http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/miscfile.php?file=benchmarking&title=Flawed%20Benchmarks ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7