Hello My company is trying to get big contract for creating and maintaining HUGE website (nation wide portal). We're trying to convince investor that Ruby (i don't mean rails) with custom tailored MVC framework is best solution, we're going to make prototypes in rails FAST, then port heaviest and most frequently used parts to my custom framework, rewrite AR into tuned SQL queries etc. investor was quite impresed with speed of development but of course there's trouble in paradise .. he hired a consultant :/ - this guy AFAIK did lot's of work but only in PHP and he is trying to convince investor PHP is way to go. could you please help me find some benchmarks comparing speed of PHP vs Ruby (especially YARV/JRuby, if ound some benchamrks that show Ruby is slower in interpreter), mayby comparsions of security(in Rails it's preatty imposible to do sql injections if programmer is carefull enought to use properly constructed queries). also I'm open to any arguments(preferable documented, with showcases, and understandable by investor(who never had much expirience with computers except for e-mail and www)) that would help convince him that ruby is much better then php :) and I'm also looking for big sites that adopted ruby / ruby on rails (especially with huge number of users / hit's per s) Marcin Raczkowski