--------------ms090502040309080909060603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yes, let's take this to Ruby-Talk so we can all participate. Most of the > open source projects I deal with on Windows have gone to || stayed with > MinGW/MSYS and its friends. Ruby seems to be the exception. Postgresql 8.3 is moving to VC2005. Python also uses VC++ (2003 IIRC). I use mingw/msys, but its not easy to setup, the tools are unfamiliar to Windows users, and debugging is well nigh impossible. 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