Daniel Lucraft wrote: >> On Jul 17, 6:52 pm, Jeff Pritchard <j... / jeffpritchard.com> wrote: >>> This could be written: >>> blah = (foo.bar||"").split > > Sometimes I think the brackets spoil how the expression reads. You could > define a method that looks like this: > > blah = foo.bar.or("").split > > Trainwreck though... > > Dan Thanks everyone. This has at least convinced me that I wasn't missing some well known way to do this. My choice of split confused the issue. I should have used something unknown like "fred". I was looking for a solution which, like the || operator, works with all object types, not just a string object, so that it could be used as a general rather than a specific solution. In other words, the (something || "") solution works for split, because there is a convenient syntax for "empty string". I was hoping for a more general (something || whateverneedstobeheretomakewhatfollowsworkright).fred As another poster mentioned or hinted at, since "something" may not have a type yet, there's no way to get the needed object type from that. I was hoping for something that can't be done without mind reading interpreters. Ruby rocks, but it still lacks a generalized "you know what I mean" operator. :) jp -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.