------ art_16461_3544427.1184205060680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 7/12/07, ruby-talk-admin / ruby-lang.org <ruby-talk-admin / ruby-lang.org> wrote: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown / gmail.com> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:44:08 +0900 > Subject: [ANN] Ruport Book Roundtable Discussion, 2007.07.16 > Keeping with the notion of 'incredibly open' development of the Ruport > Book[0], we're planning an IRC meeting for next Monday evening, 9pm > EDT. > > Mike and I will both be present and anyone who's been tracking our > progress so far on the book or just has questions or suggestions is > welcome to stop by #ruport and give us their two cents[1] > > We'll be posting the "Introduction To Ruport" section by the weekend, > so there should be lots to talk about. Because we're doing this on > our own, community feedback is super-important to us, so anyone who > can attend and give us some suggestions, please do. > > warm regards, > gregory > > [0] http://ruportbook.com > > [1] Or, if you want to give us real $0.02 : > http://www.pledgie.com/campaigns/190 > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- I believe that's what I was looking for. Thanks a lot, Masao-san. From: Masao Mutoh <mutoh / highway.ne.jp> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:48:23 +0900 > Subject: Re: Ruby Messaging Library > Hi, > > On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:40:30 +0900 > "Douglas Tan" <bianster / gmail.com> wrote: > > > I vaguely recall reading about a Ruby messaging library written by 2 > > Japanese developers which was put into high volume production usage. I'm > > trying to gather more information about this piece of software as well > as > > other Ruby messaging systems like ActiveMessaging. > > > > I would be grateful if anyone on the list is able to remember the name > of > > the library I'm referring to. > > ap4r ? > > http://rubyforge.org/projects/ap4r/ > http://ap4r.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?HomePage > > -- > .:% Masao Mutoh<mutoh / highway.ne.jp> > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Robert Dober" <robert.dober / gmail.com> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:54:16 +0900 > Subject: Re: Yield should be renamed call_block > On 7/11/07, Phrogz <phrogz / mac.com> wrote: > <snip> > > > > This native-English speaker concurs: "accept" is not at all a good > > method name for a block/proc to say "please run yourself". Better I > > think is (as I already posted) "run". :) It's both short and > > representative. > I support my supporters ;) > #run is great ( I can live with #call though, notwithstanding your > correct reasoning against it ) > > Robert > > -- > I always knew that one day Smalltalk would replace Java. > I just didn't know it would be called Ruby > -- Kent Beck > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jeffrey Bowen <ja_bowen / yahoo.com> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:55:29 +0900 > Subject: running linux command from inside > I've ran a search in ruby-talk but I couldn't find an > answer so... > > Can I run a linux command inside a ruby program. Like > > history > 63 history > history -d63 > > Thanks > Jeff Bowen > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who > knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link st&sid96545469 > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Robert Dober" <robert.dober / gmail.com> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:57:26 +0900 > Subject: Re: Religion (was: god 0.1.0 released) > On 7/11/07, Michel Belleville <michel.belleville / gmail.com> wrote: > > And now abortion. > You are a great spotter :) > R. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Jano Svitok" <jan.svitok / gmail.com> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:01:48 +0900 > Subject: Re: running linux command from inside > On 7/11/07, Jeffrey Bowen <ja_bowen / yahoo.com> wrote: > > I've ran a search in ruby-talk but I couldn't find an > > answer so... > > > > Can I run a linux command inside a ruby program. Like > > > > history > > 63 history > > history -d63 > > You are probably looking for `` or Kernel#system. > > for example: puts `ls /etc` > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown / gmail.com> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:03:48 +0900 > Subject: Re: [ANN] Ruport Book Roundtable Discussion, 2007.07.16 > On 7/11/07, Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown / gmail.com> wrote: > > > Mike and I will both be present and anyone who's been tracking our > > progress so far on the book or just has questions or suggestions is > > welcome to stop by #ruport and give us their two cents > > Just for clarity, this is #ruport on irc.freenode.net on Monday > 2007.07.16 at 9pm EDT > > > Sorry for the double post. > > -greg > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Igor Wasinski <errorval / gmail.com> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:04:50 +0900 > Subject: Re: win32ole: application.quit() leave process running > List Rb wrote: > > Interesting. If you exit the ruby/IRB instance, the EXCEL process will > > close, but not until then. > > This also happens when you Ctrl-C Mongrel instance on which the app is > running. Once Mongrel is killed, EXCEL.EXE process also disappears from > Windows Task Manager > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Rob Hunter <rob.hunter / gmail.com> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:08:05 +0900 > Subject: Re: Creating a language -- HTML + a few special tags > This is great! Thank you both so much for your replies. > > > --rob > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Brad Phelan <phelan / tttech.ttt> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:10:20 +0900 > Subject: Re: god 0.1.0 released > Todd Burch wrote: > > Florian Frank wrote: > > > >> Why? At least now the name refers to *something*. > > > > I've never seen a "name" that didn't refer to something. Perhaps you > > meant "implies" something. And yes, it implies a sense of arrogance on > > Tom's part. > > > > And your comment, Benj, about the Gaming industry already doing it - so > > it must be "ok"... and your initial thoughts on objections for the use > > of the name, and then signing as "mostly agnostic"... You sir - have > > given me the best laugh of the day! Your first thoughts must have come > > from your non-"mostly agnostic" side, and by the definition of agnostic, > > you are uncertain anyway. So, your post is a trip, (a riot, it's > > hilarious), anyway you look at it! And yes, in this case, it's > > perfectly relevant. > > > > Perhaps its my age (44), which to some might suggest a certain level of > > maturity and/or discretion, but I would have spent a bit more mental > > time to come up with a name, like I said before, that was more > > appropriate, or perhaps, OK, I'll quit beating around the bush on my > > real feelings - less inappropriate. > > > > But, being a candidate for an old fuddy-duddy, I could be looking at > > this all wrong too. With God (the real one) being taken out of schools, > > and His commandments being taken out of our courthouses, and in all the > > other ways society has found to remove or otherwise pidgeon-hole God out > > of our lives, perhaps this reference, however infinitesimally minute in > > the scheme of things, will raise someone's curiosity enough to do some > > exploration for themselves on the matter. > > > > One last comment. Yes, this name choice, as we've already seen, will be > > the brunt of jokes and snickering, but in the end, you (Tom) have set a > > pretty big expectation for the usefulness and quality of your wares. > > > > Good luck with your project. (P.S. yeah, I know, "luck" is a pagan > > thing!) > > > > Todd > > > > Now, before anyone gets their knickers in a twist on my comments - take > > a deep breath, relax, and realize that I have not personally attacked > > anyone. Might I have made fun of you? Well, that depends! > > > > A few comments on this amusingly off topic thread. > > (1) Larry Wall, a legendary programmer and committed Christian founded > the Perl programming language and littered it with religious allusions. > > (2) The history of literature music and culture is full of the borrowing > of others symbols for selfish purposes better or worse. The early > Christian church was not innocent and borrowed many former Pagan > symbols. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"??? > > (3) If Tom want to name his project "G.d" them let him be. Persecuting > those claiming divinity has a historical tendency to make the said > target of the persecution more popular, eventually becoming in the eyes > of the faithful the very thing the persecutor took offense with in the > first place. > > B > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bertram Scharpf <lists / bertram-scharpf.de> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:48:50 +0900 > Subject: Re: running linux command from inside > Hi, > > Am Mittwoch, 11. Jul 2007, 23:55:29 +0900 schrieb Jeffrey Bowen: > > Can I run a linux command inside a ruby program. Like > > > > history > > 63 history > > history -d63 > > `history' is not a Linux "command", it is a Bash command. > > What for do you need a command history when you're not on a > command line? > > Bertram > > > -- > Bertram Scharpf > Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany > http://www.bertram-scharpf.de > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: wbp / nodomain.invalid (Will Parsons) > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:55:01 +0900 > Subject: Re: Religion (was: god 0.1.0 released) > Michal Suchanek wrote: > > On 11/07/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb / cesmail.net> wrote: > >> Well, I for one don't like the name "kill" for a command/system call > >> that merely sends a *signal* to a process. "kill" is simply one of the > >> possible signals it can send. I would have called it "signal". It has > >> nothing to do with the offensiveness or lack thereof of the name -- > it's > >> simply an overspecialized name for a more general function. > >> > > However, there was no command completion back then. Kill is shorter, > > easier to type, even one-handed while eating pizza ;-) > > Note that the function in C is called signal, only the user command is > kill. > > Actually, no. The C equivalent of the kill command is kill(). (At least > on POSIX-type platforms, that is. There is no equivalent in the standard > C library - signal() has another purpose.) > > - Will > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Todd Burch <promos / burchwoodusa.com> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:59:11 +0900 > Subject: Re: win32ole: application.quit() leave process running > Sam Smoot wrote: > > Set xlapp.Visible rue (at least I *think* that's the param for > > visibility, it's been awhile). > > > > It's probably a modal dialog asking you to save or something > > preventing it from closing. You'll need to dismiss that first > > (programmatically of course). > > > > Yes, that's the right property. I'm running with visibility on, and > there aren't any outstanding dialogs awaiting a response. Wish it were > that. > > Good idea on the env. varaible setup. Sweet! > > Todd > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bharat Ruparel <bruparel / mercury.com> > To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:08:05 +0900 > Subject: Re: running linux command from inside > Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Am Mittwoch, 11. Jul 2007, 23:55:29 +0900 schrieb Jeffrey Bowen: > >> Can I run a linux command inside a ruby program. Like > >> > >> history > >> 63 history > >> history -d63 > > > > `history' is not a Linux "command", it is a Bash command. > > > > What for do you need a command history when you're not on a > > command line? > > > > Bertram > > Since it is a Bash specific command why can't you just run a Bash > command file using `` or system commands? That command file can contain > the Bash specific invocaion commands in the first line or any other > language for that matter. I don't think it is a good idea to make your > client aware of the specificity of the called program. > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > -- Practical_Guile << http://practicalguile.com Clever::Tagline::Pending ------ art_16461_3544427.1184205060680--