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On 7/12/07, ruby-talk-admin / ruby-lang.org <ruby-talk-admin / ruby-lang.org>
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> From: "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown / gmail.com>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:44:08 +0900
> Subject: [ANN] Ruport Book Roundtable Discussion, 2007.07.16
> Keeping with the notion of 'incredibly open' development of the Ruport
> Book[0], we're planning an IRC meeting for next Monday evening, 9pm
> EDT.
>
> Mike and I will both be present and anyone who's been tracking our
> progress so far on the book or just has questions or suggestions is
> welcome to stop by #ruport and give us their two cents[1]
>
> We'll be posting the "Introduction To Ruport" section by the weekend,
> so there should be lots to talk about.  Because we're doing this on
> our own, community feedback is super-important to us, so anyone who
> can attend and give us some suggestions, please do.
>
> warm regards,
> gregory
>
> [0] http://ruportbook.com
>
> [1] Or, if you want to give us real $0.02 :
> http://www.pledgie.com/campaigns/190
>
>
>
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I believe that's what I was looking for. Thanks a lot, Masao-san.

From: Masao Mutoh <mutoh / highway.ne.jp>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:48:23 +0900
> Subject: Re: Ruby Messaging Library
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:40:30 +0900
> "Douglas Tan" <bianster / gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I vaguely recall reading about a Ruby messaging library written by 2
> > Japanese developers which was put into high volume production usage. I'm
> > trying to gather more information about this piece of software as well
> as
> > other Ruby messaging systems like ActiveMessaging.
> >
> > I would be grateful if anyone on the list is able to remember the name
> of
> > the library I'm referring to.
>
> ap4r ?
>
> http://rubyforge.org/projects/ap4r/
> http://ap4r.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?HomePage
>
> --
> .:% Masao Mutoh<mutoh / highway.ne.jp>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Robert Dober" <robert.dober / gmail.com>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:54:16 +0900
> Subject: Re: Yield should be renamed call_block
> On 7/11/07, Phrogz <phrogz / mac.com> wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > This native-English speaker concurs: "accept" is not at all a good
> > method name for a block/proc to say "please run yourself". Better I
> > think is (as I already posted) "run". :) It's both short and
> > representative.
> I support my supporters ;)
> #run is great ( I can live with #call though, notwithstanding your
> correct reasoning against it )
>
> Robert
>
> --
> I always knew that one day Smalltalk would replace Java.
> I just didn't know it would be called Ruby
> -- Kent Beck
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jeffrey Bowen <ja_bowen / yahoo.com>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:55:29 +0900
> Subject: running linux command from inside
> I've ran a search in ruby-talk but I couldn't find an
> answer so...
>
> Can I run a linux command inside a ruby program.  Like
>
> history
> 63 history
> history -d63
>
> Thanks
> Jeff Bowen
>
>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Robert Dober" <robert.dober / gmail.com>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:57:26 +0900
> Subject: Re: Religion (was: god 0.1.0 released)
> On 7/11/07, Michel Belleville <michel.belleville / gmail.com> wrote:
> > And now abortion.
> You are a great spotter :)
> R.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Jano Svitok" <jan.svitok / gmail.com>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:01:48 +0900
> Subject: Re: running linux command from inside
> On 7/11/07, Jeffrey Bowen <ja_bowen / yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I've ran a search in ruby-talk but I couldn't find an
> > answer so...
> >
> > Can I run a linux command inside a ruby program.  Like
> >
> > history
> > 63 history
> > history -d63
>
> You are probably looking for `` or Kernel#system.
>
> for example:  puts `ls /etc`
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown / gmail.com>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:03:48 +0900
> Subject: Re: [ANN] Ruport Book Roundtable Discussion, 2007.07.16
> On 7/11/07, Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown / gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike and I will both be present and anyone who's been tracking our
> > progress so far on the book or just has questions or suggestions is
> > welcome to stop by #ruport and give us their two cents
>
> Just for clarity, this is #ruport on irc.freenode.net  on Monday
> 2007.07.16 at 9pm EDT
>
>
> Sorry for the double post.
>
> -greg
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Igor Wasinski <errorval / gmail.com>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:04:50 +0900
> Subject: Re: win32ole: application.quit() leave process running
> List Rb wrote:
> > Interesting. If you exit the ruby/IRB instance, the EXCEL process will
> > close, but not until then.
>
> This also happens when you Ctrl-C Mongrel instance on which the app is
> running. Once Mongrel is killed, EXCEL.EXE process also disappears from
> Windows Task Manager
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rob Hunter <rob.hunter / gmail.com>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:08:05 +0900
> Subject: Re: Creating a language -- HTML + a few special tags
> This is great!  Thank you both so much for your replies.
>
>
> --rob
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Brad Phelan <phelan / tttech.ttt>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:10:20 +0900
> Subject: Re: god 0.1.0 released
> Todd Burch wrote:
> > Florian Frank wrote:
> >
> >> Why? At least now the name refers to *something*.
> >
> > I've never seen a "name" that didn't refer to something.  Perhaps you
> > meant "implies" something.  And yes, it implies a sense of arrogance on
> > Tom's part.
> >
> > And your comment, Benj, about the Gaming industry already doing it - so
> > it must be "ok"...  and your initial thoughts on objections for the use
> > of the name, and then signing as "mostly agnostic"... You sir - have
> > given me the best laugh of the day!  Your first thoughts must have come
> > from your non-"mostly agnostic" side, and by the definition of agnostic,
> > you are uncertain anyway.  So, your post is a trip, (a riot, it's
> > hilarious), anyway you look at it!  And yes, in this case, it's
> > perfectly relevant.
> >
> > Perhaps its my age (44), which to some might suggest a certain level of
> > maturity and/or discretion, but I would have spent a bit more mental
> > time to come up with a name, like I said before, that was more
> > appropriate, or perhaps, OK, I'll quit beating around the bush on my
> > real feelings - less inappropriate.
> >
> > But, being a candidate for an old fuddy-duddy, I could be looking at
> > this all wrong too.  With God (the real one) being taken out of schools,
> > and His commandments being taken out of our courthouses, and in all the
> > other ways society has found to remove or otherwise pidgeon-hole God out
> > of our lives, perhaps this reference, however infinitesimally minute in
> > the scheme of things, will raise someone's curiosity enough to do some
> > exploration for themselves on the matter.
> >
> > One last comment.  Yes, this name choice, as we've already seen, will be
> > the brunt of jokes and snickering, but in the end, you (Tom) have set a
> > pretty big expectation for the usefulness and quality of your wares.
> >
> > Good luck with your project.  (P.S.  yeah, I know, "luck" is a pagan
> > thing!)
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > Now, before anyone gets their knickers in a twist on my comments - take
> > a deep breath, relax, and realize that I have not personally attacked
> > anyone.  Might I have made fun of you?  Well, that depends!
> >
>
> A few comments on this amusingly off topic thread.
>
> (1) Larry Wall, a legendary programmer and committed Christian founded
> the Perl programming language and littered it with religious allusions.
>
> (2) The history of literature music and culture is full of the borrowing
> of others symbols for selfish purposes better or worse. The early
> Christian church was not innocent and borrowed many former Pagan
> symbols. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"???
>
> (3) If Tom want to name his project "G.d" them let him be. Persecuting
> those claiming divinity has a historical tendency to make the said
> target of the persecution more popular, eventually becoming in the eyes
> of the faithful the very thing the persecutor took offense with in the
> first place.
>
> B
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bertram Scharpf <lists / bertram-scharpf.de>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:48:50 +0900
> Subject: Re: running linux command from inside
> Hi,
>
> Am Mittwoch, 11. Jul 2007, 23:55:29 +0900 schrieb Jeffrey Bowen:
> > Can I run a linux command inside a ruby program.  Like
> >
> > history
> > 63 history
> > history -d63
>
> `history' is not a Linux "command", it is a Bash command.
>
> What for do you need a command history when you're not on a
> command line?
>
> Bertram
>
>
> --
> Bertram Scharpf
> Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany
> http://www.bertram-scharpf.de
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: wbp / nodomain.invalid (Will Parsons)
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:55:01 +0900
> Subject: Re: Religion (was: god 0.1.0 released)
> Michal Suchanek wrote:
> > On 11/07/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb / cesmail.net> wrote:
> >> Well, I for one don't like the name "kill" for a command/system call
> >> that merely sends a *signal* to a process. "kill" is simply one of the
> >> possible signals it can send. I would have called it "signal". It has
> >> nothing to do with the offensiveness or lack thereof of the name --
> it's
> >> simply an overspecialized name for a more general function.
> >>
> > However, there was no command completion back then. Kill is shorter,
> > easier to type, even one-handed while eating pizza ;-)
> > Note that the function in C is called signal, only the user command is
> kill.
>
> Actually, no.  The C equivalent of the kill command is kill(). (At least
> on POSIX-type platforms, that is.  There is no equivalent in the standard
> C library - signal() has another purpose.)
>
> - Will
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Todd Burch <promos / burchwoodusa.com>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:59:11 +0900
> Subject: Re: win32ole: application.quit() leave process running
> Sam Smoot wrote:
> > Set xlapp.Visible  rue (at least I *think* that's the param for
> > visibility, it's been awhile).
> >
> > It's probably a modal dialog asking you to save or something
> > preventing it from closing. You'll need to dismiss that first
> > (programmatically of course).
> >
>
> Yes, that's the right property.  I'm running with visibility on, and
> there aren't any outstanding dialogs awaiting a response.  Wish it were
> that.
>
> Good idea on the env. varaible setup.  Sweet!
>
> Todd
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bharat Ruparel <bruparel / mercury.com>
> To: ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML)
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:08:05 +0900
> Subject: Re: running linux command from inside
> Bertram Scharpf wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, 11. Jul 2007, 23:55:29 +0900 schrieb Jeffrey Bowen:
> >> Can I run a linux command inside a ruby program.  Like
> >>
> >> history
> >> 63 history
> >> history -d63
> >
> > `history' is not a Linux "command", it is a Bash command.
> >
> > What for do you need a command history when you're not on a
> > command line?
> >
> > Bertram
>
> Since it is a Bash specific command why can't you just run a Bash
> command file using `` or system commands? That command file can contain
> the Bash specific invocaion commands in the first line or any other
> language for that matter.  I don't think it is a good idea to make your
> client aware of the specificity of the called program.
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
>
>
>


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