In OS X 10.4.9, Ruby 1.8.4 when I use: Dir.mkdir(file_name, 755) The directories created are drop-box, owner-only. It seems the Dir class expects the leading bit. So, it should be 0755 and not 755. When using: Dir.mkdir(file_name) Without permissions, it appears to default to 0755. Just thought this might be useful for some people. Seems like I read this in the Pickaxe, but I forgot. It is interesting, since chmod accepts 755 and assumes you mean 0755 Seems to me that Dir should do the same assuming... but doesn't John Joyce