Tim X wrote: > Chad Perrin <perrin / apotheon.com> writes: > > >> Isn't that what Smalltalk does? It combines the language and the IDE in >> one convenient package. I'm sure I've seen a couple other languages do >> the same sort of thing, but at the moment I'm drawing a blank on what >> they might have been, specifically. >> >> Anyway, I'd rather code Lisp in Vim any day of the week. >> > > There have been some lisp dialects that combined the IDE with the language > similar to what smalltalk does. > Dr. Scheme comes to mind ... an IDE *and* a language tutorial. And for Forth, there's the non-free and Windows-ia32-only SwiftForth package from Forth, Inc. It's not as tutorial as Dr. Scheme, but it does come with an excellent tutorial in PDF. -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, FBG, AB, PTA, PGS, MS, MNLP, NST, ACMC(P) http://borasky-research.net/ If God had meant for carrots to be eaten cooked, He would have given rabbits fire.